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July 27, 1998 Issue # 020
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.....IN THIS DIGEST.....
// -- NEW -- //
Laptop lessons learned on a recent trip
~ Henry Mensch
Sending faxes over the Internet
~ Shen XiaoFeng
Checking non-AOL Email from within AOL
~ RFine312@aol.com
Reviews of laptop
~ Lee A. Krohn
// -- CONTINUING -- //
Using a cell phone modem with a desktop PC
~ L Collins
~ David Lee
~ David Ford
~ Nick Harkins
~ steve.nicks@aeat.co.uk
~ Isabelle Herremans
Email from Vietnam
~ Nick Harkins
HotMail from Europe
~ John Benson
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// -- MODERATOR COMMENT -- //
Lot's of useful information in this digest regarding the use of cellular
phone-compatible modems -- and the use of this technology on the desktop
PC that a subscriber takes along in her recreational vehicle (RV).
Someone also forwarded us a general article about traveling with a laptop
in an RV. I've secured permission to reprint it, so look for a special
digest in the next week containing this article.
If you don't think you're interested in the subject now, you might like
to study up for the future. At retirement, perhaps you too will find
yourself with a busy life of leisure, traveling the roads in an RV.
// -- N-E-W -- //
From: henry@q.com
Subject: Laptop lessons learned on a recent trip
Here's something I learned the hard way: Always carry a spare PCMCIA
modem. They can be purchased relatively cheaply, and this can save your
butt in the event you toast the one you regularly use.
I did this recently in a small resort town with a deadline six hours
away. Instead of uploading some stuff and spending six hours by the
pool having a swell time, I spent that six hours trying to figure out
how I was going to meet the deadline.
*sigh*
# Henry Mensch / <henry@q.com> / pob 14592; sf, ca 94114-0592;
usa
# http://www.q.com/henry/
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From: "Shen XiaoFeng" <sxf@public.nt.js.cn>
Subject: Sending faxes over the Internet
I live in China. I want to send a fax to Mexico (No.++52-131-*****).
Does anyone know whether I can send it through the TCP?
Best Regards.
Yours Sincerely,
Shen Xiaofeng
sxf@public.nt.js.cn
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From: RFine312@aol.com
Subject: Checking non-AOL Email from within AOL
If I am at home on AOL, how do I access my Email at work which is on
mindspring.com?
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
RFine312@aol.com
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From: "Lee A. Krohn" <vtplanner@compuserve.com>
Subject: Reviews of laptop
I just ran across a major review of laptop computer models that might
be of use to anyone considering the purchase of something new. It's
from PC Magazine and claims to review 54 models having taken the computers
"through a battery of tests to examine suitability to task, performance,
reliability, battery life and more."
The review can be found at:
http://www.zdnet.com/chkpt/adtewzd/www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/notebook98/index.html
Lee Krohn
work vtplanner@compuserve.com
Moderator's note:
Make sure that your Email software hasn't broken the above URL in the
middle and inserted a hard return. If it has, you'll need to paste the
two halves back together before you can access the page. The same holds
true for all long web site addresses.
// -- C-O-N-T-I-N-U-I-N-G -- //
From: lcollins <lcollins@mtaonline.net>
Subject: Using a cell phone modem with a desktop PC
In I-Laptop #19, Diane Rowley wrote:
>>I have done a lot of research as how to get email while traveling
and nothing seems to be ideal. I had considered buying a laptop and
also an acoustical coupler and hooking up to pay telephones at the RV
resorts. But when I contacted the acoustical coupler manufacturer they
did not recommend it. Basically they indicated that most of the pay
telephones out there would not handle the hookup. Next idea was a cellular
phone but so far everyone tells me that you need a card added to a laptop
and no one can tell me if this is available for a desktop PC. <<
My wife, kids, and I live in Alaska and do a lot of camping here. I
bought a Nokia cell phone and go through AT&T wireless to get my
Email with my laptop. It did not take any special card installed in
my computer. It did however require driver software to get the modem
and cell phone to communicate. I bought the cord and drivers at http://www.thesupplynet.com
for 60 dollars. I don't think your desktop should require any more than
a laptop to do the same. We have big gaps in our cell phone coverage
here in Alaska so I recently bought an acoustic coupler to hook up to
public phones at roadhouses, lodges, gas stations etc. I will be trying
it out this next week. I will let you know how that works as well.
Lonnie Collins
Lcollins@mtaonline.net
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From: "Lee, David" <David.Lee@GBR.xerox.com>
Subject: Submission to Laptop Warrior List
In reply to Diane Rowleys question about using a mobile phone with a
desktop PC, there is a product available called the Nokia Cellular Data
Suite. It is available for Nokia 3110,5110,6110 and 8110 mobile handsets
and connects to the PC's serial port. Check out:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/nf/products/datasuite/index.html
Alternatively, you can get PC Card adapters for desktop PCs which fit
into a drive bay and are connected to an ISA card. This would allow
you to use any of the many PC Card GSM/PSTN modems that are available
for a much wider range of handsets. These PC Card Bays are a rare item
in the UK but I have seen some for sale in weekly computer magazines
like Micro Mart etc.
Hope this helps Diane in some way.
Best Regards,
David Lee
David.Lee@GBR.xerox.com
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From: David.Ford@qogr.qld.gov.au
Subject: Use of a cellular phone modem on a desktop PC
I read Diana Rowley's query regarding options for the use of a cellular
phone with a desktop PC (I-Laptop #19).
One possible solution (which I must say I haven't tried personally)
would be to fit your desktop with a PC Card slot (the hardware is, I
believe fairly readily available and reasonably priced - probably even
more so in the US than here in Australia). The slot would go where a
second floppy drive fits and you could then use a normal cellular PC
Card modem as if the desktop were a notebook .
In buying the PC Card modem (and the linking cable - which is not an
insignificant part of the cost) make absolutely sure that they will
work with your cellular phone. There don't seem to be any really widespread
standards for this.
There are only two obvious disadvantages to this approach - it will
only work while you have cellular coverage (this is probably much less
a problem in the US than here) and the connection speed will be slow
(probably 9.6k against the 28.8k+ from land lines). It seems to me a
lot simpler and more secure as a form of connection though than an acoustic
coupler (which I have had some experience with) and probably no slower,
especially for e-mail type applications.
I could recommend a supplier for the bits you will need, but as they
are only in Australia, I'm not sure that would be much use!
Good luck - let us know how you go.
Regards
David Ford
Brisbane, Australia
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From: "Nick Harkins" <nickh@sprynet.com>
Subject: Use of a cellular phone modem on a desktop PC
I have posted before touting the benefits of acoustic couplers, sorry
for repetition, but....
I just returned from a month in France where I picked up my Email and
sent and received faxes every day while traveling in hotels in Normandy,
and on the canals in Brittany. I also used it in Paris from the hotel.
(I also listened to live Giants baseball games with this connection
and RealAudio.)
I used an acoustic coupler on payphones, except in Paris where I used
a telephone adapter plug. I was getting connections of about 26,400
in payphones, and 33,300 at the Paris hotel. So your info regarding
couplers appears to be incorrect.
I use Sprynet as my ISP and can use any worldwide CompuServe node to
dial locally to get the mail. It does take a little technical know-how
and minimal patience to get it to work, but once you've managed the
wires, and logons, you have a very dependable system.
Nick Harkins
nickh@sprynet.com
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From: steve.nicks@aeat.co.uk
Subject: Cellular Phone E Mail with Desktop PC
I can think of three possible solutions to Diane Rowley's problem:
1) I have an Ericsson GS 18 GSM phone which has a built in modem and
plugs into any PC via a dedicated serial cable UK cost 100UKP
2) At least one modem manufacturer (TDK I think) markets in the UK a
'software modem' which is a set of floppies which install software to
emulate a modem complete with a range of serial cables each dedicated
to a particular GSM mobile phone UK cost 90UKP plus cost of GSM phone.
3) TeleAdapt (http://www.teleadapt.com) sells a modulette which allows
you to plug the PC card modem connected to a GSM phone into the serial
port of a desktop PC. UK cost approx 100UKP
I can't think of another option.
Steve Nicks
DERBY UK
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From: "Isabelle Herremans" <intyre@kmonet.be>
Subject: Reply to use of cellular phone with PC
I have the same problem and the other day I saw a cellular phone at
the duty free in the Helsinki Airport. As my flight was boarding I did
not have the chance to buy it, but I will do so on my next trip in two
weeks and report.
It is made by Ericsson (model SH388) and connects to the computer by
infra red communication. This is probably not available in USA but there
should be similar models sold there!
Regards
Jan Herremans, Manager
Intyre, Belgium.
Worldwide trade in used and new tyres.
Tel+fax : +32.52481135
intyre@kmonet.be
www.intyre.com
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From: "Nick Harkins" <nickh@sprynet.com>
Subject: re: Email from Vietnam
Regarding the request for information regarding Email in Vietnam (I-Laptop
#19), I hooked up a client to CompuServe, which has a node in Bangkok
and she has used it for a year from LAOS, also a "blacked out"
country. She is a teacher there. Look around for other ISPs. There are
some locals in Bangkok, but I chose CompuServe because of its dependability
and worldwide coverage. She may be going to Africa soon.
Nick Harkins
nickh@sprynet.com
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From: "John Benson" <jbenson@mediaone.net>
Subject: HotMail from Europe
Bob,
Good luck using HotMail on you upcoming trip to Europe (see I-Laptop
#19).
I've used HotMail when traveling through Europe on business. The problem
I encountered is that it is too slow to handle my Email. Maybe I have
become spoiled with my cable modem at home and T1 line at work. When
you use a 28.8 dial up in Europe, it feels like you've gone back to
the 18 th century.
John Benson
jbenson@mediaone.net
Moderator's Note:
Some of us poor souls are stuck using a dial-up connection all the time
- not just while traveling. But then again, I suppose there are some
advantages of never getting spoiled. It's a terrible thing to raise
one's expectations. This is just another advantage of living in a lightly
populated part of Vermont.
I'm off on my HotMail European adventure this afternoon. I let everyone
know how I make out.
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